A recently released podcast hosted by two ambitious business students, Abdallah Khattab and Zeyad Gebaly, offers viewers vicarious mentorship from businesspeople pioneering their respective fields. Targeting a younger audience, Eh El Kalam (on Youtube) is in Egyptian Arabic (sorry, unilingual folks).

The premise behind Eh El Kalam is making insider knowledge accessible to watchers / listeners and expelling the ambiguity and misconceptions surrounding each trade. The hosts hope to make success a more tangible concept rather than an abstract daydream by detailing the guests’ journeys and showing that success is not always linear. Guests face good-willed interviewers whose curiosity and relatability allows them to connect with their admirers on a more personal level. The six episodes feature the likes of architect Hany Saad, footballer Ayman Younis, and musician Hisham Kharma.

STARTED FROM THE BOTTOM, NOW WE HERE- The episode featuring Hany Saad, a titan of architecture, sees him dive into how he was introduced to the field with no mentors or network. Despite being offered a TA position as a fresh grad, Saad didn’t see himself going down the academic route. “I wanted to be around sand and cement,” he told Khattab and Gebaly. He detailed his humble beginnings, when, desperate to land his first gig, he offered his designing services without charge and worked out of his first office: the trunk of his car. While Saad now sees his initial disconnect from the field as an advantage, he talks about wanting to reshape the industry to be more welcoming to the younger generation.

WHERE TO LISTEN- Eh El Kalam can be found on both YouTube and Spotify, with each episode’s runtime ranging from 45 minutes to an hour.